This is a true story of the exorcism of my friend H. Insha'Allah (God willing) I will try to provide the original audio clips and quotes of key events as they developed.
1: BACKGROUND ABOUT H
H is an old friend of mine that I met at University. We went on 3umrah together with a few other close friends. Over the past few years he has told me about general struggles he has had with people in his family doing magic and general demonic possession. H has seen Raqi's and occasionally been exorcised over the course of a few months, however, near the beginning he was visited by some dodgy Raqi's (really they were magicians) who ended up doing more harm than good. To this day still suffers from multiple demons that seems to be attached to him. H realises they are there but seems to have accepted it and sees it as something he has to live with patiently. H performs regular ruqya on himself to combat the effects and has come to learn a lot about this stuff. H was actually the friend who gave me good advice during my visit to the UK that helped with the exorcism of my wife. This is the true story of how H finally became exorcised of multiple demons...and one very large one....over WhatsApp! (We were chatting via WhatsApp because H lives in the UK while I am living in the UAE).
2: THE WAITING ROOM
A few days prior to this incident, I was mentioning a new technique that my wife and I had learnt by the permission of God which was very effective for exorcisms. It provided us with a direct insight and way of communicating with the demon during exorcisms. It is a visualisation technique called "the waiting room" and was instrumental during the exorcism of my wife a few days prior. I mentioned this technique to H and he was impressed. Out of curiosity we decided to also try the technique on H himself. Here is what happened when he did the technique for the first time:
- he visualised an empty waiting room (this actually represents the person's mind)
- there was a snake moving around the floor very quickly
- 3 smaller snakes were near it
- he then realises that the 3 smaller snakes were an illusion from the main snake
- H recites some Qur'an
- the snake slowed down
- the snake transforms into a lady
- she was tied up in a chair
(Notice the strange eerie sound of "wind" in the background of the audio clip as he explains what happened)
- H feels very tired after doing this visualisation technique
- he says he needs to do the Ruqya bath (salt water with Quran recited over it to bathe in) yet he never actually did it.
- also H has been saying that he would perform the powerful 12 rakaat prayer for days prior to this, yet never did it yet!
3: GENERAL WISDOMS AND CHIT CHAT
So a few days later, H and I were chatting on WhatsApp
H was having doubts about people praying for him on his behalf. He thought it was not permissible islamically, however I assured him it was:
H: I wasn't too sure I felt good abt her doing it for me [the prayer]
Me: why? u mean [its] better to ask urself? ...I think its ok...if someone asks [God something] on ur behalf
H: [be]cause [I] doubt...if its allowed
Me: the sahabah would ask [the] prophet [s.a.a.s] to pray for them all the time. and it was narrated that if you pray for your parents after they die it raises them [their rank]. so you are praying for them on your behalf.
H: true. subhanallah. ...im not sure if its only [allowed for] family
Me: nahh... we pray for Muhammad s.a.a.s all the time. every muslim should
H: oh yeh. that's true. lol.
H then went on to ask if I used "dead sea salt" when doing the ruqya bath, and then narrating some interesting facts about avoiding areas which have received God's punishment in the past. I actually learnt that it is not good to visit places like ancient ruins since it was disliked by the prophet s.a.a.s in authentic hadith.
H then asked me a strange question..
H: ...do me a favour and look into the law of attraction or law of vibration. I have been coming across that recently.
Me: is it a psychology thing?
H: A lot of ppl use it to become successful and that its the universal code or language
M: or do you mean physical thing - like magnets?
H: no. its like the law of the universe
M: do you mean [a] spiritual thing? like positive energy?
H: yeh positive energy... now some ppl use it but wanted to know if it had some significance in islam
M: as for the law of the Universe - I know some things. but only from [the] prophet s.a.a.s. [such as] if you want a longer life, keep the ties of kinship
H: really?
Me: if you want more wealth, seek God's forgiveness
H: subhanallah. ..more
Me: ok - Insha'Allah...gentleness beautifies things...if you want to continue getting provisions make sure you share it. if you keep it to urself it will dry up / run out
H: ok. mashaallah. makes sense
Me: if you do not want God's anger, then avoid getting angry, and if you want to avoid getting angry, get rid of pride (that one is hard to do) - the last one is from prophet 3isa [jesus] a.s.
H: subhanallah
Me: the prophet [muhammad] s.a.a.s said u can get angry - but [u should] control it. ...pride though - is something that leads to kufr [rejection] and it is minor shirk [polytheism] - it is the sin of iblis [beliel - the devil]. pride is to make urself a god/something of worship
H: subhanallah. of course. may God protect us from such ailments.
Me: ameen...if you want people to love you...something about don't lust after their things... it means - do not love what they have - and they will love u
H: subhanallah. [share some] for health. or healing
Me: yeah - ok. all harm u feel erases some of ur sins if u are patient. for all sicknesses there is a cure except two...one that afflicts the fornicators and death or old age. everytime u make dua [supplication] 1 of 3 things happen: 1) it is answered immediately, 2) it is stored up in the hereafter, 3) something bad is averted from you of equal value.
H: subhanallah. yeh.
Me: heres a big secret. everything is decreed -even if we do good or bad deeds - but only thing we have control over (that our free will controls) is intention. and we are rewarded on our intentions...not deeds
H: subhanallah. really?
Me: yeah - reward and punishment is from intentions
H: How can punishment be from intentions? I never knew that.
Me: ...I can send you the hadith if u like?
H: yeh send it.
Me: ok. hold on
H: ok cool
Me: [http://a3lim.blogspot.ae/2016/06/free-will-vs-fate.html]
Argument: Fate exists - everything is decreed.
Q: So why is it fair to be judged and rewarded or punished since we have no control?
Short Answer:
We are not judged on our actions alone but we are judged by our intentions [1]. This is because the choices we intend are what our free will truly has control over, whereas the outcome of these choices are predestined [2].
Long Answer:
Our deeds are decreed, but our intentions are not. If our intentions are inclined toward good, then our reward for the good deeds we are decreed to do are multiplied [2]. If not, we get what was written for us.
This is fair because we are all likely destined to do more sin than good (it is easier to make a mistake than to do good), yet we all have a way to enter paradise by multiplying the reward for the good deeds we do (by our intentions) and thus outweigh our sins. We may even receive a reward from a sin if our intention was to avoid doing it [2].
Even someone who is decreed to do many good deeds (e.g. fasting) could incur no reward for those good deeds by failing to have the correct intention [3]. Similarly, someone decreed to do many bad deeds could avoid having them counted against them if they were committed unwillingly (e.g. done while insane or sleeping etc) [4].
So the good and bad deeds God has decreed for each of us are more akin to opportunities from which we can multiply reward and nullify punishments based on our intentions governed by our free-will.
[1] "deeds are judged only by intention."
The Messenger of God (s.a.a.s) said:
“Verily, deeds are only with intentions.
Verily, every person will have only what they intended.
...Whoever emigrated to get something in the world or to marry a woman, then his emigration is for whatever he emigrated for.”
[Sahih Bukhari 54, Sahih Muslim 1907]
[2] The Messenger of God (s.a.a.s.) said:
that God said: “Verily,God has ordered that the good and the bad deeds be written down.
Then He explained it clearly how (to write):
He who intends to do a good deed but he does not do it, then God records it for him as a full good deed,
but if he carries out his intention, then God the Exalted, writes it down for him as from ten to seven hundred folds, and even more.
But if he intends to do an evil act and has not done it, then God writes it down with Him as a full good deed,
but if he intends it and has done it, God writes it down as one bad deed.”
[Bukhari and Muslim].
[3] Prophet (s.a.a.s.) has said:
"Perhaps a person fasting will receive nothing from his fasting except hunger and thirst."
[Ibn Majah, Ad-Daarimee, Ahmad, al-Baihaqi, Sahih]
[4] The Messenger of God (s.a.a.s) said:
“The Pen is lifted from three:
H: subhanallah. kinda scary.... [be]cause I never knew. some ppl are unaware...regarding doing deeds.
We continued discussing wisdoms and then began joking. then the topic of marriage came up and we discussed that for a while.
4: BACK IN THE WAITING ROOM
Finally, we decided to try the "waiting room" visualisation / thought experiment again.
Me: ok Insha'Allah. what is your waiting room looking like now?
H: ...my room is greyish. I see it empty and greyish... just empty with a chair and greyish
Me: so interesting. do you see yourself in the room?
H: I see myself as the person in the room... looking at the chair and walls but cannot see myself like I see myself in the mirror.... no one is there in the chair... it's just me
Me: where?
H: there waiting
Me: but where? like - next to [the] chair? standing?
H: in the front of the room...im standing and the chair in front of me...no mirror there...I cant see myself...no door
Me: try imagine urself - zooming out - so you see the whole room from 3rd person view. step outside your body - and see yourself in the room. it is important
H: I see not the back of my head and body...but not the front
Me: ok good. now go back and up - like from above. go back first - and higher so you can see [the] whole room. and then see your body. what is it doing? what do you see?
H: its moving his head left to right
Me: ok. so - what is around? what does [the] room look like?
H: Greyish
Me: ok - make your body turn round - slowly. so u can see your face. describe it.
H: how?
Me: command it. ur intention. this zone is controlled by your intention
H: I see it. its turned around. its like its lifeless.
Me: describe the face
H: white
Me: but is it you? u recognise it as you?
H: so basically my soul is out of the body
Me: u can say that. but - the body is still alive right? it can still do stuff. its just a representation of you.
H: yes if I command it.
Me: good. so - tell your body to point - point to where it is afraid of. with its finger.
H: yes - so I told it to move around...like arms etc. it moved them.
Me: ...did it point?
H: its confused
5: THE GREEN GREMLIN
Me: ok - can you see the whole room? everything in it? ask your body to look around. explore every part. what happened?
H: its pointing everywhere!...like it wasn't doing anything. I read [Quran] and spittled at it. eventually it pointed to my body.... then suddenly outside to a corner of the room and then suddenly to another [part] of the room
Me: can you imagine light coming from your finger? try.
H: as the soul or body?
Me: from the body's finger as it points.
H: With the soul I have a long sword made of light
Me: ok - good. now - tell it to go to the place it pointed [to] and poke it with the sword. see what happens
H: ok. its jumping. its a small amber light...on the wall... and its moving
Me; catch it if u can. saying bismillah. command it in the name of God to reveal itself. so you can ask it questions
H: subhanallah. it was moving fast... then in circles like it was portal jumping. I said that duaa and it couldn't jump. and it transformed into a golem / gremlin. green. dark green. ugly face. skinny.
Me: did you speak to it?
H: I said "reveal". it wouldn't reveal... then it was trying to make my body attack my soul... my soul's hand was on its throat... and told the body "you obey God not him. Go back" and my body went back.... i asked it [the demon]. it wouldn't comply. it was arrogant. so i killed it.
Me: mashallah. now - what happened when you killed it?
H: it went into ashes...like fire ashes
Me: ok - and the ashes - where did they go?
H: in the air...it went up. it didn't go down... and above the light is brighter.
Me: do the same thing to another part your body pointed to until the room is bright with light
H: so above it [is] brighter and the rest is slowly becoming brighter.
Me: great. when the room is fully bright - it is a good sign. so - lets try again
H: ok...the whole top is like a wall and a window combined
Me: yes - that is good - that is where it will go out from Insha'Allah. that is the exit. is it open or closed?
H: it is closed off...but when the ashes went it became transparent and went through.
Me: good. nice - but - we need to check. it seems like there are more. the big one. we need to find it
H: yes i feel [like that's the case] aswell...the body is pointing toward the back wall. and its indicating in the wall. 2 of them. hidden....soldiers of the big one.
Me: ok. now. recite Qur'an first. and dua. and then - before u go to them, make sure ur body is shining bright.
6: MORE DEMONS
(After a while, H came back. He didn't type the rest. he used audio recorder from now on.)
after he had recited Qur'an and duaa, he said that his body (in the waiting room) started to fight with his soul. like something was controlling his body
he recited Qur'an and dua on it.
then something came out of the body.
it had a big black body and beard and white robe.
it went to ashes
then the body affirmed to the soul that it was now fully in the soul's control.
the body then pointed to the front wall.
the soul went to it to investigate.
the body came too and grabbed one demon out of the wall (without having to be commanded directly by the soul). it was helping on its own.
the body killed one of the demons
the soul grabbed the other and questioned it
the second demon (same like the other - black/green) was saying its name and was a bit hurt
it revealed there was another one.
the soul told the body to get it. it knew where it was and got it.
this one also said its name (Ree..)
it said the one you want it over there..and pointed to a bigger demon
this big demon had wings
the body grabbed it and it was screaming
it looked like a leech with fangs and wings
the soul continued to question the one it was holding. it wasn't giving too much information away but when asked "why are you doing this?" it replied "they're doing it!" like they were servants being made to do this.
it didn't want to become muslim. it knew it was going to be killed. it wasn't scared of dying. it just thought it was doing its mission.
the soul slit its throat with its sword in the right hand. it turned to ashes
the soul then went to the winged one that was crying a lot. it was being held by the body.
the soul chopped off its wings (like black bat-like wings) because it tried to fly away. it held the demon by the head.
it was different from the other ones. it didn't want to talk as much as the other one. but it said its name was "arra.." or "arkanas"
the demon was hurt and in pain and dying from the recitation of Qur'an
it was spitting as the soul recited Qur'an: fatihah, ayat al kursi, and duaa. several times
it was bleeding blood - but a pussy substance.
the soul grabbed a glass of water from the corner of the room and poured it over the demon.
it turned to droplets (not ash this time)
the room became brighter.
the soul said to the body "is that it? are u sure there isn't any more? therers no lady in there?"
the body said "no"
so the soul went back into its body.
7: THE WIFE AND KIDS
So H then though the job was done.
but something he said didn't sound right. it sounded like a trick.
He said that 3 of the 4 walls had demons in them: front wall with 2 demons. back wall with 1 demon. etc.
However, he said the wall on the right never had anything wrong with it! H then described it as being a special wall or pathway!!!
until now, the body had seemed to avoid this wall. but after killing those demons, the body seemed to shift toward this right wall.
as it got closer, a window appeared in the wall.
through the window H saw a lady wearing a wedding dress with 3 children
the body had a smile on its face and it went to it!!!
it became immediately obvious to me that this "woman" was the big one! the big demon. but H seemed to be oblivious to it!
when i questioned H about this - he began to give some really strange answers that made no sense. answers that were obvious tricks from the demon - but its as if H just believed them without questioning it. i asked H how could all the other walls have demons but not this wall?
he gave an illogical and contradictory answer about the wall being insignificant at first but later being the place where the body had to move to at the end!!??
was my friend's mind actually possessed by the woman demon?
i told H...the room needs to be FULLY bright...take down the last fake wall!!!...his reply seemed a bit 'out of it' ...
"which wall?" he said
8: DISTRACTION TECHNIQUES
What H said next made little sense. it was stories from his past that he had just "remembered". it was strange out of body experiences (about being out of this world, going through doors, portals, another dimension, blood, a flying horse, etc) and he claimed that what we were doing was nothing new - and not effective. At the time i listened - but by the end it was obvious he was simply stalling for time. Story after story. Most of it probably false. mixed up tales Just to avoid continuing with his treatment.
Caution! Please beware when listening to the next clips. i think this may not be H who is talking. (I suspect it is the demon - label thiese audio files E). I still get shivers down my spine every time i listen to them. its possible that there is demonic languages which we cannot hear clearly and that they are attempting to bewitch the listener. so proceed with extreme caution for the next few clips. if you are going to listen i strongly recommend being in a state of ablution (wudu) and make this duaa:
O God, i seek refuge in Your immense face, there is nothing greater than it
and i seek refuge in Your perfect words, there is no good nor evil person who exceeds them
and i seek refuge in Your most beautiful names, those i know and do not know
from the evil You created, originated and multiplied
...
...i did not include the rest but they were all about similar unrelated stories.
9: THE BIG ONE
So - the woman claims to be H's future wife and the 3 kids are their future kids.
i told H to play along.
i also tried using logic to make H realise it is a trick -
i said that if she is your wife, she should be muslim. so ask her to say the shahaada (testimony of faith)
but after he kept telling some more random stories about his past experiences with the supernatural - he said rather chilling statements.
"what do you mean...her name?" (with very long pauses with strange noise in the background)
he said he could see his body in the right wall. (as he said this his voice changed and became slower)
he said he tried dragging his body out of the wall
but the lady was screaming
he then said
"her name is khalila"
"she said the shahadah"
"she must be a muslim then"
but the statements were said so emotionless
so cold and slowly
like it wasn't H speaking
so i realised something weird was going on at this point...and i also warned H that something is going on. Then H made an excuse that he was very tired and hearing "things" around the room!
i convinced him to be strong and stay focused.
it was making him feel scared and sleepy to stop because we were onto her
H said that it was "sweating and scared now"
i told H to take his sword of light
he said "i cant"
i told him to recite certain duaa
after he recited the duaa,
he said that he gripped her
and the 3 kids went back inside the woman -
so he realised they were an illusion
and then he admitted she must be the main one
and the others that he had killed were her minions
and that the winged one was a "major" or "senator"
...
but then he began to get weak again - his voice slowed and he was pausing again - with eerie noises in the background. it seemed like he was going back into a trance
i said "stay strong and focused" .
i said to him to recite alfatihah (Qur'an)
i realised that the best thing to do was start reciting myself and send him the audio file.
as H listened to the recitation - he came back to normal
he said that he had the woman on the floor and he got a rock
and smashed the mirror in the room
and that the Qur'an i had recited for him helped - like a giant speaker in the room!
alhamdulilah
he said that he was still holding the woman down.
but then she started tricking H again
H started thinking she was muslim
saying "but she's wearing white" (an indication that it has become muslim)
but i said to H
no its a trick
if she were muslim - shed have a hijab on, right?
he said - "yeah your right. it is a trick"
"she hasn't got a hijab on. i can see her black hair... i know that's not her true form"
10: THREATS
Then..H warns me to protect myself because "she is angry"
i was feeling strange things even before he said that and realised there are things in the room.
Roohy (my wife) also said she felt things
she was also seeing faces while trying to pray
it was threatening us!
i decided to recite surat al baqarah from Quran and send it to H (you can actually hear a double voice in parts. this happens more later - after ive prayed)
i then went to pray the 12 rakaat prayer
and told roohy to do the same
i made dua that H's demon is destroyed of becomes Muslim and leaves TONIGHT...and that H is protected from anything coming back
i also asked God to protect my family and that anything that comes near us becomes Muslim or is destroyed
(later that night, during Fajr - Roohy said she saw white specs flying around the room. when she went to sleep she had some demons attacking her and not letting her sleep. that there were things sitting on the bed and things trying to go inside her stomach - but they couldn't due to a barrier. she woke up and put quran on the phone and speaker. she made dua and asked God to make the demon small that she could destroy it. She opened the curtains and the morning sunlight shone in. Then the demon turned into a fly and Roohy squashed it with her hand. it was killed. there were 2 more which got scared. Roohy said to them "come, come. I'm not getting much sleep so ill fight u right now". Then she fell back to sleep and had a dream. the two other demons went to attack her but didn't know what to do. they looked scared. Roohy said to them you can take the shahadah or you can die. the first one said "ill take the shahadah" and it was a male. allahu akbar it became muslim. then roohy told him about medinah and its sanctuary. it flew off. the second one was a female and also took its shahadah. allahu Akbar. she was 15. she thought she couldn't go to Madinah because she was female. then she stayed and learnt about islam from Roohy. when Roohy woke up I had returned home from the mosque and she told me what happened)
10: THE WOMAN DIES
I came back from my prayer.
it seemed God was swift in answering the duaa
H said that while I was gone the woman had become chained to the chair in the room
and that she was dying
he was questioning her
but eventually slit her throat with his sword
and H could feel her crying
also the light from the window above was burning her
it was brighter from Qur'an
she was slowly turning to burning ashes from the light
but...
H said he was feeling so weak and tired
I thought that he would stop!!!
so I recited for him again and as I did I made dua in my heart that God makes this recitation like a burning light for the demon (notice the double voice at certain verses. it is as if an angel of the Lord is reciting to reinforce it - alhamdulilah)
H said that as he listened to the recitation...
the woman was now on the floor
"first her outer layer was burning"
"like disappearing"
from the light coming from above (the Qur'an)
"then her legs were gone so she was crimped on the floor"
then
"she has now fully dissipated"
from the light above
"i can only see the room and the light"
"i feel kinda strange now"
"she died"
"...her ashes went like flames"
"i pressed on my chest...near the heart area...it [used to] hurt...like a guard was blocking it...[but] when I press [now] I feel no pain"
"the room is full of light and flowers" (just like what happened with Roohy's room - when the demon left)
"like roses and different colours"
"alhamdulilah"
"i feel drained though"
"my shoulders and my back [are] lighter"
"flowers everywhere. like on the floor scattered. bright walls. light."
I told H to go and pray 2 rakaat to thank God.
then when he came back we just looked around the room one more time to make sure it had really gone. we had our doubts. maybe it was tricking him - after all - it had been so long (years) that he's had this problem. Could one night of internet exorcism really cure it?
H made his body in the room prostrate too and then made dua that he remains protected
"another light appeared but outside of the room. like a shield of light outside of the room"
"and [I'm] not sCared anymore [to get married]..cause before I was worried.but now its like alhamdulilah"
I still wasn't sure. but then God sent me a sign through my wife
she was reading this book - the prophet's medicine
and came across a verse she just read out to me
the verse was 46:25
"it destroyed everything by the command of its Lord..."
تُدَمِّرُ كُلَّ شَيْءٍ بِأَمْرِ رَبِّهَا فَأَصْبَحُوا لَا يُرَىٰ إِلَّا مَسَاكِنُهُمْ ۚ كَذَٰلِكَ نَجْزِي الْقَوْمَ الْمُجْرِمِينَ
1: BACKGROUND ABOUT H
H is an old friend of mine that I met at University. We went on 3umrah together with a few other close friends. Over the past few years he has told me about general struggles he has had with people in his family doing magic and general demonic possession. H has seen Raqi's and occasionally been exorcised over the course of a few months, however, near the beginning he was visited by some dodgy Raqi's (really they were magicians) who ended up doing more harm than good. To this day still suffers from multiple demons that seems to be attached to him. H realises they are there but seems to have accepted it and sees it as something he has to live with patiently. H performs regular ruqya on himself to combat the effects and has come to learn a lot about this stuff. H was actually the friend who gave me good advice during my visit to the UK that helped with the exorcism of my wife. This is the true story of how H finally became exorcised of multiple demons...and one very large one....over WhatsApp! (We were chatting via WhatsApp because H lives in the UK while I am living in the UAE).
2: THE WAITING ROOM
A few days prior to this incident, I was mentioning a new technique that my wife and I had learnt by the permission of God which was very effective for exorcisms. It provided us with a direct insight and way of communicating with the demon during exorcisms. It is a visualisation technique called "the waiting room" and was instrumental during the exorcism of my wife a few days prior. I mentioned this technique to H and he was impressed. Out of curiosity we decided to also try the technique on H himself. Here is what happened when he did the technique for the first time:
- he visualised an empty waiting room (this actually represents the person's mind)
- there was a snake moving around the floor very quickly
- 3 smaller snakes were near it
- he then realises that the 3 smaller snakes were an illusion from the main snake
- H recites some Qur'an
- the snake slowed down
- the snake transforms into a lady
- she was tied up in a chair
(Notice the strange eerie sound of "wind" in the background of the audio clip as he explains what happened)
- H feels very tired after doing this visualisation technique
- he says he needs to do the Ruqya bath (salt water with Quran recited over it to bathe in) yet he never actually did it.
- also H has been saying that he would perform the powerful 12 rakaat prayer for days prior to this, yet never did it yet!
3: GENERAL WISDOMS AND CHIT CHAT
So a few days later, H and I were chatting on WhatsApp
H was having doubts about people praying for him on his behalf. He thought it was not permissible islamically, however I assured him it was:
H: I wasn't too sure I felt good abt her doing it for me [the prayer]
Me: why? u mean [its] better to ask urself? ...I think its ok...if someone asks [God something] on ur behalf
H: [be]cause [I] doubt...if its allowed
Me: the sahabah would ask [the] prophet [s.a.a.s] to pray for them all the time. and it was narrated that if you pray for your parents after they die it raises them [their rank]. so you are praying for them on your behalf.
H: true. subhanallah. ...im not sure if its only [allowed for] family
Me: nahh... we pray for Muhammad s.a.a.s all the time. every muslim should
H: oh yeh. that's true. lol.
H then went on to ask if I used "dead sea salt" when doing the ruqya bath, and then narrating some interesting facts about avoiding areas which have received God's punishment in the past. I actually learnt that it is not good to visit places like ancient ruins since it was disliked by the prophet s.a.a.s in authentic hadith.
H then asked me a strange question..
H: ...do me a favour and look into the law of attraction or law of vibration. I have been coming across that recently.
Me: is it a psychology thing?
H: A lot of ppl use it to become successful and that its the universal code or language
M: or do you mean physical thing - like magnets?
H: no. its like the law of the universe
M: do you mean [a] spiritual thing? like positive energy?
H: yeh positive energy... now some ppl use it but wanted to know if it had some significance in islam
M: as for the law of the Universe - I know some things. but only from [the] prophet s.a.a.s. [such as] if you want a longer life, keep the ties of kinship
H: really?
Me: if you want more wealth, seek God's forgiveness
H: subhanallah. ..more
Me: ok - Insha'Allah...gentleness beautifies things...if you want to continue getting provisions make sure you share it. if you keep it to urself it will dry up / run out
H: ok. mashaallah. makes sense
Me: if you do not want God's anger, then avoid getting angry, and if you want to avoid getting angry, get rid of pride (that one is hard to do) - the last one is from prophet 3isa [jesus] a.s.
H: subhanallah
Me: the prophet [muhammad] s.a.a.s said u can get angry - but [u should] control it. ...pride though - is something that leads to kufr [rejection] and it is minor shirk [polytheism] - it is the sin of iblis [beliel - the devil]. pride is to make urself a god/something of worship
H: subhanallah. of course. may God protect us from such ailments.
Me: ameen...if you want people to love you...something about don't lust after their things... it means - do not love what they have - and they will love u
H: subhanallah. [share some] for health. or healing
Me: yeah - ok. all harm u feel erases some of ur sins if u are patient. for all sicknesses there is a cure except two...one that afflicts the fornicators and death or old age. everytime u make dua [supplication] 1 of 3 things happen: 1) it is answered immediately, 2) it is stored up in the hereafter, 3) something bad is averted from you of equal value.
H: subhanallah. yeh.
Me: heres a big secret. everything is decreed -even if we do good or bad deeds - but only thing we have control over (that our free will controls) is intention. and we are rewarded on our intentions...not deeds
H: subhanallah. really?
Me: yeah - reward and punishment is from intentions
H: How can punishment be from intentions? I never knew that.
Me: ...I can send you the hadith if u like?
H: yeh send it.
Me: ok. hold on
H: ok cool
Me: [http://a3lim.blogspot.ae/2016/06/free-will-vs-fate.html]
Argument: Fate exists - everything is decreed.
Q: So why is it fair to be judged and rewarded or punished since we have no control?
Short Answer:
We are not judged on our actions alone but we are judged by our intentions [1]. This is because the choices we intend are what our free will truly has control over, whereas the outcome of these choices are predestined [2].
Long Answer:
Our deeds are decreed, but our intentions are not. If our intentions are inclined toward good, then our reward for the good deeds we are decreed to do are multiplied [2]. If not, we get what was written for us.
This is fair because we are all likely destined to do more sin than good (it is easier to make a mistake than to do good), yet we all have a way to enter paradise by multiplying the reward for the good deeds we do (by our intentions) and thus outweigh our sins. We may even receive a reward from a sin if our intention was to avoid doing it [2].
Even someone who is decreed to do many good deeds (e.g. fasting) could incur no reward for those good deeds by failing to have the correct intention [3]. Similarly, someone decreed to do many bad deeds could avoid having them counted against them if they were committed unwillingly (e.g. done while insane or sleeping etc) [4].
So the good and bad deeds God has decreed for each of us are more akin to opportunities from which we can multiply reward and nullify punishments based on our intentions governed by our free-will.
[1] "deeds are judged only by intention."
The Messenger of God (s.a.a.s) said:
“Verily, deeds are only with intentions.
Verily, every person will have only what they intended.
...Whoever emigrated to get something in the world or to marry a woman, then his emigration is for whatever he emigrated for.”
[Sahih Bukhari 54, Sahih Muslim 1907]
[2] The Messenger of God (s.a.a.s.) said:
that God said: “Verily,God has ordered that the good and the bad deeds be written down.
Then He explained it clearly how (to write):
He who intends to do a good deed but he does not do it, then God records it for him as a full good deed,
but if he carries out his intention, then God the Exalted, writes it down for him as from ten to seven hundred folds, and even more.
But if he intends to do an evil act and has not done it, then God writes it down with Him as a full good deed,
but if he intends it and has done it, God writes it down as one bad deed.”
[Bukhari and Muslim].
[3] Prophet (s.a.a.s.) has said:
"Perhaps a person fasting will receive nothing from his fasting except hunger and thirst."
[Ibn Majah, Ad-Daarimee, Ahmad, al-Baihaqi, Sahih]
[4] The Messenger of God (s.a.a.s) said:
“The Pen is lifted from three:
- a child until he reaches puberty;
- an insane man until he comes to his senses;
- one who is asleep until he wakes up.”
H: subhanallah. kinda scary.... [be]cause I never knew. some ppl are unaware...regarding doing deeds.
We continued discussing wisdoms and then began joking. then the topic of marriage came up and we discussed that for a while.
4: BACK IN THE WAITING ROOM
Finally, we decided to try the "waiting room" visualisation / thought experiment again.
Me: ok Insha'Allah. what is your waiting room looking like now?
H: ...my room is greyish. I see it empty and greyish... just empty with a chair and greyish
Me: so interesting. do you see yourself in the room?
H: I see myself as the person in the room... looking at the chair and walls but cannot see myself like I see myself in the mirror.... no one is there in the chair... it's just me
Me: where?
H: there waiting
Me: but where? like - next to [the] chair? standing?
H: in the front of the room...im standing and the chair in front of me...no mirror there...I cant see myself...no door
Me: try imagine urself - zooming out - so you see the whole room from 3rd person view. step outside your body - and see yourself in the room. it is important
H: I see not the back of my head and body...but not the front
Me: ok good. now go back and up - like from above. go back first - and higher so you can see [the] whole room. and then see your body. what is it doing? what do you see?
H: its moving his head left to right
Me: ok. so - what is around? what does [the] room look like?
H: Greyish
Me: ok - make your body turn round - slowly. so u can see your face. describe it.
H: how?
Me: command it. ur intention. this zone is controlled by your intention
H: I see it. its turned around. its like its lifeless.
Me: describe the face
H: white
Me: but is it you? u recognise it as you?
H: so basically my soul is out of the body
Me: u can say that. but - the body is still alive right? it can still do stuff. its just a representation of you.
H: yes if I command it.
Me: good. so - tell your body to point - point to where it is afraid of. with its finger.
H: yes - so I told it to move around...like arms etc. it moved them.
Me: ...did it point?
H: its confused
5: THE GREEN GREMLIN
Me: ok - can you see the whole room? everything in it? ask your body to look around. explore every part. what happened?
H: its pointing everywhere!...like it wasn't doing anything. I read [Quran] and spittled at it. eventually it pointed to my body.... then suddenly outside to a corner of the room and then suddenly to another [part] of the room
Me: can you imagine light coming from your finger? try.
H: as the soul or body?
Me: from the body's finger as it points.
H: With the soul I have a long sword made of light
Me: ok - good. now - tell it to go to the place it pointed [to] and poke it with the sword. see what happens
H: ok. its jumping. its a small amber light...on the wall... and its moving
Me; catch it if u can. saying bismillah. command it in the name of God to reveal itself. so you can ask it questions
H: subhanallah. it was moving fast... then in circles like it was portal jumping. I said that duaa and it couldn't jump. and it transformed into a golem / gremlin. green. dark green. ugly face. skinny.
Me: did you speak to it?
H: I said "reveal". it wouldn't reveal... then it was trying to make my body attack my soul... my soul's hand was on its throat... and told the body "you obey God not him. Go back" and my body went back.... i asked it [the demon]. it wouldn't comply. it was arrogant. so i killed it.
Me: mashallah. now - what happened when you killed it?
H: it went into ashes...like fire ashes
Me: ok - and the ashes - where did they go?
H: in the air...it went up. it didn't go down... and above the light is brighter.
Me: do the same thing to another part your body pointed to until the room is bright with light
H: so above it [is] brighter and the rest is slowly becoming brighter.
Me: great. when the room is fully bright - it is a good sign. so - lets try again
H: ok...the whole top is like a wall and a window combined
Me: yes - that is good - that is where it will go out from Insha'Allah. that is the exit. is it open or closed?
H: it is closed off...but when the ashes went it became transparent and went through.
Me: good. nice - but - we need to check. it seems like there are more. the big one. we need to find it
H: yes i feel [like that's the case] aswell...the body is pointing toward the back wall. and its indicating in the wall. 2 of them. hidden....soldiers of the big one.
Me: ok. now. recite Qur'an first. and dua. and then - before u go to them, make sure ur body is shining bright.
6: MORE DEMONS
(After a while, H came back. He didn't type the rest. he used audio recorder from now on.)
after he had recited Qur'an and duaa, he said that his body (in the waiting room) started to fight with his soul. like something was controlling his body
he recited Qur'an and dua on it.
then something came out of the body.
it had a big black body and beard and white robe.
it went to ashes
then the body affirmed to the soul that it was now fully in the soul's control.
the body then pointed to the front wall.
the soul went to it to investigate.
the body came too and grabbed one demon out of the wall (without having to be commanded directly by the soul). it was helping on its own.
the body killed one of the demons
the soul grabbed the other and questioned it
the second demon (same like the other - black/green) was saying its name and was a bit hurt
it revealed there was another one.
the soul told the body to get it. it knew where it was and got it.
this one also said its name (Ree..)
it said the one you want it over there..and pointed to a bigger demon
this big demon had wings
the body grabbed it and it was screaming
it looked like a leech with fangs and wings
the soul continued to question the one it was holding. it wasn't giving too much information away but when asked "why are you doing this?" it replied "they're doing it!" like they were servants being made to do this.
it didn't want to become muslim. it knew it was going to be killed. it wasn't scared of dying. it just thought it was doing its mission.
the soul slit its throat with its sword in the right hand. it turned to ashes
the soul then went to the winged one that was crying a lot. it was being held by the body.
the soul chopped off its wings (like black bat-like wings) because it tried to fly away. it held the demon by the head.
it was different from the other ones. it didn't want to talk as much as the other one. but it said its name was "arra.." or "arkanas"
the demon was hurt and in pain and dying from the recitation of Qur'an
it was spitting as the soul recited Qur'an: fatihah, ayat al kursi, and duaa. several times
it was bleeding blood - but a pussy substance.
the soul grabbed a glass of water from the corner of the room and poured it over the demon.
it turned to droplets (not ash this time)
the room became brighter.
the soul said to the body "is that it? are u sure there isn't any more? therers no lady in there?"
the body said "no"
so the soul went back into its body.
7: THE WIFE AND KIDS
So H then though the job was done.
but something he said didn't sound right. it sounded like a trick.
He said that 3 of the 4 walls had demons in them: front wall with 2 demons. back wall with 1 demon. etc.
However, he said the wall on the right never had anything wrong with it! H then described it as being a special wall or pathway!!!
until now, the body had seemed to avoid this wall. but after killing those demons, the body seemed to shift toward this right wall.
as it got closer, a window appeared in the wall.
through the window H saw a lady wearing a wedding dress with 3 children
the body had a smile on its face and it went to it!!!
it became immediately obvious to me that this "woman" was the big one! the big demon. but H seemed to be oblivious to it!
when i questioned H about this - he began to give some really strange answers that made no sense. answers that were obvious tricks from the demon - but its as if H just believed them without questioning it. i asked H how could all the other walls have demons but not this wall?
he gave an illogical and contradictory answer about the wall being insignificant at first but later being the place where the body had to move to at the end!!??
was my friend's mind actually possessed by the woman demon?
i told H...the room needs to be FULLY bright...take down the last fake wall!!!...his reply seemed a bit 'out of it' ...
"which wall?" he said
8: DISTRACTION TECHNIQUES
What H said next made little sense. it was stories from his past that he had just "remembered". it was strange out of body experiences (about being out of this world, going through doors, portals, another dimension, blood, a flying horse, etc) and he claimed that what we were doing was nothing new - and not effective. At the time i listened - but by the end it was obvious he was simply stalling for time. Story after story. Most of it probably false. mixed up tales Just to avoid continuing with his treatment.
Caution! Please beware when listening to the next clips. i think this may not be H who is talking. (I suspect it is the demon - label thiese audio files E). I still get shivers down my spine every time i listen to them. its possible that there is demonic languages which we cannot hear clearly and that they are attempting to bewitch the listener. so proceed with extreme caution for the next few clips. if you are going to listen i strongly recommend being in a state of ablution (wudu) and make this duaa:
O God, i seek refuge in Your immense face, there is nothing greater than it
and i seek refuge in Your perfect words, there is no good nor evil person who exceeds them
and i seek refuge in Your most beautiful names, those i know and do not know
from the evil You created, originated and multiplied
...
...i did not include the rest but they were all about similar unrelated stories.
9: THE BIG ONE
So - the woman claims to be H's future wife and the 3 kids are their future kids.
i told H to play along.
i also tried using logic to make H realise it is a trick -
i said that if she is your wife, she should be muslim. so ask her to say the shahaada (testimony of faith)
but after he kept telling some more random stories about his past experiences with the supernatural - he said rather chilling statements.
"what do you mean...her name?" (with very long pauses with strange noise in the background)
he said he could see his body in the right wall. (as he said this his voice changed and became slower)
he said he tried dragging his body out of the wall
but the lady was screaming
he then said
"her name is khalila"
"she said the shahadah"
"she must be a muslim then"
but the statements were said so emotionless
so cold and slowly
like it wasn't H speaking
so i realised something weird was going on at this point...and i also warned H that something is going on. Then H made an excuse that he was very tired and hearing "things" around the room!
i convinced him to be strong and stay focused.
it was making him feel scared and sleepy to stop because we were onto her
H said that it was "sweating and scared now"
i told H to take his sword of light
he said "i cant"
i told him to recite certain duaa
after he recited the duaa,
he said that he gripped her
and the 3 kids went back inside the woman -
so he realised they were an illusion
and then he admitted she must be the main one
and the others that he had killed were her minions
and that the winged one was a "major" or "senator"
...
but then he began to get weak again - his voice slowed and he was pausing again - with eerie noises in the background. it seemed like he was going back into a trance
i said "stay strong and focused" .
i said to him to recite alfatihah (Qur'an)
i realised that the best thing to do was start reciting myself and send him the audio file.
as H listened to the recitation - he came back to normal
he said that he had the woman on the floor and he got a rock
and smashed the mirror in the room
and that the Qur'an i had recited for him helped - like a giant speaker in the room!
alhamdulilah
he said that he was still holding the woman down.
but then she started tricking H again
H started thinking she was muslim
saying "but she's wearing white" (an indication that it has become muslim)
but i said to H
no its a trick
if she were muslim - shed have a hijab on, right?
he said - "yeah your right. it is a trick"
"she hasn't got a hijab on. i can see her black hair... i know that's not her true form"
10: THREATS
Then..H warns me to protect myself because "she is angry"
i was feeling strange things even before he said that and realised there are things in the room.
Roohy (my wife) also said she felt things
she was also seeing faces while trying to pray
it was threatening us!
i decided to recite surat al baqarah from Quran and send it to H (you can actually hear a double voice in parts. this happens more later - after ive prayed)
i then went to pray the 12 rakaat prayer
and told roohy to do the same
i made dua that H's demon is destroyed of becomes Muslim and leaves TONIGHT...and that H is protected from anything coming back
i also asked God to protect my family and that anything that comes near us becomes Muslim or is destroyed
(later that night, during Fajr - Roohy said she saw white specs flying around the room. when she went to sleep she had some demons attacking her and not letting her sleep. that there were things sitting on the bed and things trying to go inside her stomach - but they couldn't due to a barrier. she woke up and put quran on the phone and speaker. she made dua and asked God to make the demon small that she could destroy it. She opened the curtains and the morning sunlight shone in. Then the demon turned into a fly and Roohy squashed it with her hand. it was killed. there were 2 more which got scared. Roohy said to them "come, come. I'm not getting much sleep so ill fight u right now". Then she fell back to sleep and had a dream. the two other demons went to attack her but didn't know what to do. they looked scared. Roohy said to them you can take the shahadah or you can die. the first one said "ill take the shahadah" and it was a male. allahu akbar it became muslim. then roohy told him about medinah and its sanctuary. it flew off. the second one was a female and also took its shahadah. allahu Akbar. she was 15. she thought she couldn't go to Madinah because she was female. then she stayed and learnt about islam from Roohy. when Roohy woke up I had returned home from the mosque and she told me what happened)
10: THE WOMAN DIES
I came back from my prayer.
it seemed God was swift in answering the duaa
H said that while I was gone the woman had become chained to the chair in the room
and that she was dying
he was questioning her
but eventually slit her throat with his sword
and H could feel her crying
also the light from the window above was burning her
it was brighter from Qur'an
she was slowly turning to burning ashes from the light
but...
H said he was feeling so weak and tired
I thought that he would stop!!!
so I recited for him again and as I did I made dua in my heart that God makes this recitation like a burning light for the demon (notice the double voice at certain verses. it is as if an angel of the Lord is reciting to reinforce it - alhamdulilah)
H said that as he listened to the recitation...
the woman was now on the floor
"first her outer layer was burning"
"like disappearing"
from the light coming from above (the Qur'an)
"then her legs were gone so she was crimped on the floor"
then
"she has now fully dissipated"
from the light above
"i can only see the room and the light"
"i feel kinda strange now"
"she died"
"...her ashes went like flames"
"i pressed on my chest...near the heart area...it [used to] hurt...like a guard was blocking it...[but] when I press [now] I feel no pain"
"the room is full of light and flowers" (just like what happened with Roohy's room - when the demon left)
"like roses and different colours"
"alhamdulilah"
"i feel drained though"
"my shoulders and my back [are] lighter"
"flowers everywhere. like on the floor scattered. bright walls. light."
I told H to go and pray 2 rakaat to thank God.
then when he came back we just looked around the room one more time to make sure it had really gone. we had our doubts. maybe it was tricking him - after all - it had been so long (years) that he's had this problem. Could one night of internet exorcism really cure it?
H made his body in the room prostrate too and then made dua that he remains protected
"another light appeared but outside of the room. like a shield of light outside of the room"
"and [I'm] not sCared anymore [to get married]..cause before I was worried.but now its like alhamdulilah"
I still wasn't sure. but then God sent me a sign through my wife
she was reading this book - the prophet's medicine
and came across a verse she just read out to me
the verse was 46:25
"it destroyed everything by the command of its Lord..."
تُدَمِّرُ كُلَّ شَيْءٍ بِأَمْرِ رَبِّهَا فَأَصْبَحُوا لَا يُرَىٰ إِلَّا مَسَاكِنُهُمْ ۚ كَذَٰلِكَ نَجْزِي الْقَوْمَ الْمُجْرِمِينَ


